Monday, September 24, 2007

Girls Only

How would the story be different if it was only girls on the island? Would girls react differently than the boys did? How would their society be different?

65 comments:

Anonymous said...

I recently read an article in TIME magazine that covered this topic.
It stated that in recent studies, girls are JUST AS LIKELY to resort to physical violence (like punching someone) as boys are! There just seems to be a social stereotype that girls are the catty gender, and guys are the brawny gender!
Apparently, if girls would be substituted on the island, the same thing would probably conspire! Maybe there would be a few different events, but in general, there would be the splitting of the tribes, and inevitably, the physical violence would still happen.
-gardenstate

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure that if there were a bunch of girls stranded on an island, their society would have been a lot more organized. They also wouldn't have been nearly as violent. Girls can be violent, but I don't think that they would go to the extreme of killing eachother. It probably would've taken longer fo the girls to catch a pig, too.
-Smiles

Anonymous said...

I definitely think girls would have handled it differently. Girls are more likely to stay together and work things out. And they'd be more open to discussing feelings about the beast. They wouldn't ignore the littluns, but take care of them more.
-ForgetRegret

Anonymous said...

If only girls landed on the island, the whole entire story plot would be so different. Girls have a tendency to be more nurturing and so the interaction with the littluns would be entirely different.The girls would have taking care of the littluns instead of letting them get too close to the fire and making them eat bad fruit. They also would have probably had more organization, having the bathroom in one specific spot, bathing every day and such. The island as a whole would have been incredibly different.
-Pocahantas

Anonymous said...

I think that the story would be completely different if Golding put girls on the island. There would be a whole lot of drama, but I do think that there would be a lot more order within the civilization. Girls would react much more differently to the beast and the whole idea of going on an adventure to find out whats on the island.
-tickletight-

Anonymous said...

I think that it would be an entirely diffrent book if it were only girls. The little ones would probably would of been taken ccare of, and there would be diffrent priorities.



-skittles

Anonymous said...

i think the story would be way different with only girls on the island. even if the girls were the same age as the boys on the island the would be way more mature. they would handle the situation way better because they would care more and have a more organized way of handling things like the fire and shelters.

~barbie~

Anonymous said...

Smiles, I agree about the pig part. Personally, I'm pretty squeamish about killing an animal for food. I think I'd just stick with the fruit.
However, I still think that the girl society would fall apart in the end. Perhaps just as violently. Humans are pretty much the same; predictable. Inevitably, it wouldn't matter what gender took over the island, either way, there would be political unrest.
-gardenstate

Anonymous said...

GardenState:
well i think it all depends on what generation of girls we're talking about, girls used to be a lot more "tamed" not as catty as now. Since they used to be practically just housewives, i think that the girls back then would have been different, even though if they were sent now to the island it would be a way different story!
-Pochahontas

Anonymous said...

Hey!
If there were only girls on the island i think the girls would be a lot less violent. Just because girls dont think that way when they are young. Especially if they are british they are raised to be proper english women they are really going to want to stay that way and it will be imprinted in their heads to stay proper for ever. I dont think the girls would do as well as eating or anything and i think they wouldnt survive for as long as the boys would because in order to survive, you needed to be barberic and not proper.
~Lil' Dork

Anonymous said...

gardenstate,
Yes, I agree with the TIME magazine article, girls will eventually resort to violence. Yes, they will be more nurturing and caring to the littluns, but there will be drama and eventually viloence, just like the boys!
-tickletight

Anonymous said...

I agree with Smiles, that girls would be more organized but i think that they would resort to violence just like guys would. I think it is human nature to do some things and some of their violence comes out when they are in a situation where they have to survive by any means and when they no longer have any resources. Over all I think that people will all react in a similar way, people will always do what they have to do.

Belle

Anonymous said...

Belle,
Totally agree with you! I think anyone would just kind of go crazy, all the boys did and i don't think that it would matter, girls, boys, children, adults, midgets they all would become slowly insane,and just do what they have to, to survive.
Pochahontas

Anonymous said...

I don't think girls couls have accomplished anything on the island honestly. Girls may be more level-headed, but I think girls in general would have been more inclined to just deal with the emotional issues they are facing, rather than the physical ones. Plus, I don't think I could just in cold blood kill an animal like the boys were able to, and thus, would not be able to get the protein. I think girls would be living on just fruit. But maybe that is a good thing, if the boys hadn't started hunting, would they have become so savage?

Anonymous said...

Part of me thinks that if there were only girls on the island it would be more civilized, but then again i don't think they would last as long as boys do. To me boys are all kind of born as natural hunters, so food is brought into the picture. The girls, though, have better ways of being organized and civilized and respectful to each other. They just don't exactly have the same survival skills as a male would.

-PrincessCinderella<3

Anonymous said...

I don't think girls could have accomplished anything on the island honestly. Girls may be more level-headed, but I think girls in general would have been more inclined to just deal with the emotional issues they are facing, rather than the physical ones. Plus, I don't think I could just in cold blood kill an animal like the boys were able to, and thus, would not be able to get the protein. I think girls would be living on just fruit. But maybe that is a good thing, if the boys hadn't started hunting, would they have become so savage?

Enmadre (oops forget my name)

Anonymous said...

Honestly I believe that if it were only girls on the island they may not survive as long as perhapse the boys would have. Girls, and I'm not saying all of them, would probably have a harder time starting a fire, slaughtering a pig, I know I would. Thank goodness for our boy scouts :)
~CozyFresh~

Anonymous said...

I do not believe weather females were raised in Britian or America there would be a different outcome! I think, yes, everyone no matter who you are would definitly go a little crazy. Gardenstate- How do they know this about human nature? I know that it is in TIME magazine but how do they know. Did they do a study where they put a bunch of girls on an island. That is almost impossible to prove.

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

belle-
would the have resorted to voilence to the same extent as the boys though? i dont think so..boys, even when young resprt to fighting wheras girls have tea parties. i think that a female presence on the island would have prevented the murders.
-princessbelle

Anonymous said...

I think that they would have flipped out. They crash landed on the island they would have started to freak out and not done any of the responces that the boys had when they landed.

-Cobra Commander

Anonymous said...

Barbie,
Girls do mature faster than boys therefore it would be a much different story. They would think more logically and be worried about getting rescued more then having meat.
-ForgetRegret

Anonymous said...

Cozyfresh-

Given the situation I think no matter what sex you are EVERYONE has the instinct to survive. Although girls seem not to want to kill the animals I am pretty sure they would considering the situation. Just because someone is a girl or boy does not lessen or increase their want to survive. I think you can not say that girls or boys would survive longer without actually doing the experiment.

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

I agree with Sleepingbeauty<3. In many cases I have found TIME magazine to be very biased and plus come up with your own oppions with what you know. After all you do see and interact with girls are perhapse are a girl. So observe and tell me if you still think that we (girls) would still resort to the same violence. If you do, great thats cool, but I don't see that happening and definately not as intense as the boys.
~CozyFresh~

Anonymous said...

sleepingbeauty<3,
Awesome point! That's EXACTLY what I think.
Genius, I must say.

-gardenstate

Anonymous said...

I don't think the boys on the island would allow the girls to take any leadership roles. If you remember back when you were twelve, there was actually a lot of competition between girls and boys. If the two groups managed to mature a little bit and accept each other, then I think girls would be a good addition, although it probably wouldn't reduce violence (in agreement to gardenstate).

-YourMom

Anonymous said...

I definitely think the girls would've been way faster on reacting to the situation than the boys were. I also think that they would've kept their word about one person talking when they had the conch.

smileyface16

Anonymous said...

Barbie,
I disagree with your idea. They might be more mature but they wouldn't figure out how to build a shelter or light a fire. Do know three diffrent ways to start a fire? What if no one had glasses or thick enough ones what would you do? The girls would be way more emotional, and that would get in the way of survival.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

sleepingbeatuy<3 I completely agree with you about girls having survival instincts but don't you also agree that girls could maybe have a more dificult time doing certain things in certain situations. I agree taht girls rock that we have great skills to care for the young, gather food, treat wounds etc, but perhapse killing a pig isn't our stongpoint. Maybe it's yours, not mine definately and I find it hard to believe that girls in this room, not excluding myself, would be a little nausous to the whole blood and guts scene.
~CozyFresh~

Anonymous said...

Cozy Fresh-

Ya I don't know if girls would resort to violence. It is a hard for one to tell what would happen. But, I do believe it would be much less likely.

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

cozyfresh, sleepingbeauty-

Its human instict to survive, i think that any of us would kill a pig if we really had to.
-princessbelle

Anonymous said...

Aight so i think that girls would have more emotions like pistol pete said, and that if there are one maby two girls that had a idea of how to survive the other girls probably wouldn't listen.

Cobra Commander

Anonymous said...

Cozy Fresh-

I totally agree with you. I have never killed an animal and afterwords I would probably cry. But, I think if it was life or death I would most definitly kill a pig.

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

Cozy fresh
Guys can treat wounds to i know how to put a bandaid on and how to splint someones leg if its broken. It is probably eiasier for guys to survive because they have rounded skills except for maybe nurturing but that isn't really crucial to survival.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

I think that girls would have instinct come out and help them to survive but if they couldnt kill a pig then they probably cant fix a wound that is gushing blood out of something that is still alive.But still inner instinct would some how come out for some girls but others it probably wouldnt as easily.

Cobra Commander

Anonymous said...

Princessbelle,
COMPLETELY AGREE!
It is human instinct to survive therefore, if needed, you would kill a pig.
Great point.
-ForgetRegret

Anonymous said...

I think it's wrong that everyone is saying girls wouldn't/couldn't hunt because they're too emotional. I'm female and I hunt. I clean and skin the animals I kill as well. Have any of the females talking about how bad it would be to go hunting and kill something ever been hunting? I didn't think so.

Anyway, back on topic. The story wouldn't be extremely different in my opinion. Girls are just as mean as boys in many instances and would be capable of murder and hatred just like boys. I do think there would be a little more understanding on the island and people like Piggy wouldn't have been treated as mean. There would most likely be better decision making and caretaking of the smaller children. Girls mature more quickly than boys and would be able to comprehend their situation better and be more efficient in their decisions.

-Serendipitous

Anonymous said...

Pistol pete-

Yes, guys might have more 'skills' to survive but nuturing is very crucial and otherwise everyone would die who wasn't old enough to take care of themselves!

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

Since the girls are to afriad to kill a pig then they would eventually die. They would die because of protien defficencies. you need meat to live. Say you did manage to kill a pig could you gut it wright so you don't contaminate the meat.?

Anonymous said...

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

Pochahontas--

I don't think just because woman were more housewives back then doesn't mean they were just as catty. Think about it, woman gossip, now just as much as the y ever have in our society. So although it isn't as overtly aggressive, it's still basically a personal attack on someone.

Enmadre

Anonymous said...

True all of you are right. But as a question, do you think that girls and boys have seperate skills naturally? For example mothers and fathers, mothers usually care for there childern while men maybe, not always, are more uncomfortable around certain situations. A mercy factor? I think these are all god given gifts that vary person to person. What do you think? I know that I personaly could kill a pig I would rather have some boy do it for me though.
~CozyFresh~

Anonymous said...

Pistolpete~
I totally disagree with you! Just because girls are more squeemish about blood and guts, and maybe do cry more often, does not mean that we don't have any survival skills at all. A lot of survival skills is common sense, and all people do have a lot of that. Honestly do you know how to start a fire? i bet your answer is yes, and if we all put our minds to it, anyone in this class could figure it out, boy or girl.
-Smiles:)

Anonymous said...

Pistolpete,
there are a lot of girls who know three ways to start a fire and you cant say what if no one had glasses that girls wouldnt know how to start a fire because in the book the boys couldnt start a fire they had to use the glasses. so what if there were no glasses? personally i dont think that the boys would have made a fire!!

~Barbie~

Anonymous said...

sleeping buty
Ya all they littluns need is food realy and water and the guys can provide that. Good luck nurturing them if you can't take care of yourselves.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

Barbie
They started a fire with the means they had, It worked so they didn't need another way.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

I think that the girls would react differently to the crash and the death of their friends. I know it's a stereotype, but I really think girls would be more emotional after a traumatic event. However, I do think that, in general, girls would behave a lot like the boys. I agree that everyone's instinct to survive would override their otherwise "dainty" ways.
-coolblogname (sorry about the repeat)

Anonymous said...

Pistolpete,
girls are entirely capable of everything that boys are capable of... we would not die of protein deficiencies because in that situation we would be able to hunt just like a boy would...for survial
-princessbelle

Anonymous said...

I think some of you are wrong for saying that girls wouldn't be able to kill a pig! Girls can do anything guys can, and yes I do think that they would be more hesitant, but they would kill a pig to survive.

smileyface16

Anonymous said...

Cozy Fresh-

I think the reason that you find that mothers seem to take care of children and men work is because of the way society works. In my family my mother works and my dad stays home. I do think that guys and girls seem to have different traits. And yes i would rather have someone else kill a pig for me but just because of that I wouldn't die because I refuse to kill a pig.But maybe that is just me!
-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

Pisol Pete
Ya i dont really know what to say i agree and dissagree with you. I agree that the mojority of the girls dont have survival skills and might not be able to kill a pig. However, those few girlas that do know how to react probably would get reconized and probably would have to take control over everyone and it would probably end up like the boys.

-Cobra Commander

Anonymous said...

cobracomander,
thos boys were not born with survival skills, and considerignt hat they were the choir i dont think that they had training either. they did what they had to, to feed them selves and to ensure survival. Girls could do the same just as well.
-princessbelle

Anonymous said...

Sleepingbeauty<3
Yep that is very true. The same situation of mothers working and fathers staying home is represented quite a bit but do you think that the way we are made has to do with our sex or not? I definately do.
~CozyFresh~

Anonymous said...

Anything boys can do girls can do better.

its a proven fact, deal with it.
=]

-princessCinderella<3

Anonymous said...

Pistolepete,
Wow, thats a little harsh! "Good luck nurturing if you can't take care of yourself." You might want to rethink that a little!!!!!!!
-tickletight

Anonymous said...

Smiles
I infact know like three ways to start a fire. Even though some survival skills are common sense make one wrong discetions and you get very ill or die. you don't just go around eating random plants. Could you gut a ig correctly. If you cantamanate the meat then you cannot eat it or you will get veryy ill.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

Enmadre,
i disagree, although you felt the heat to keep your house clean and have dinner on the table from other woman, manners were important back then and they had more morals then i think our girls today have. we have been robbed of gorwing up and seeing how we should actand what's apporpriate, well a lot of girls have. Back then there was more common courtesy and i think girls are much more vicious today then they ever have been.
Pocahontas

Anonymous said...

Pocohantas--
Once again I disagree, I think woman have always been unable to keep their subtle vicious tendencies to themselves. Think about it, why did men take over government from a Matriarchal society? Becuase woman are vicious psychologically, while men are just going to, well, kill you.

Enmadre

Anonymous said...

Well then Pistolpete......
Would you know what plants to eat? How would boys know any of that better than girls? The pig is the only thing I can agree with you on.
-Smiles:)

Anonymous said...

Pistolepete-

Who are you to say that girls can't kill and gut a pig to eat it!! obviously you aren't a girl so you have absolutely no clue what hell you are talking about, ok?

-PrincessCinderella<3

Anonymous said...

Hey there princessbelle yeah i think that the girls would have not reacted the same way sitting in a classroom and actually doing it is two diffrent things. I think that boys are raised to know how to react to these situations. Girls arnt really surpossed to know how to react to these situations it depends on where they are born and how they are raised.

Cobra Commander

Anonymous said...

Princesbelle
do you know how to gut a pig correctly. You get very sick if you do it wrong.You might be able to kill a pig but scould you get past the blood and guts to eat it. You would be surprised how diffrently you would react to a situation Than you think you would have.

Pistolepete

Anonymous said...

Cozy fresh-

I think it is really hard to tell. Society says that girls are nice quiet and dainty and boys are hard working gruff and brawny. I am not sure what would happen if those 'judgements' went away. What would everyone act like?

-sleepingbeauty<3

Anonymous said...

PrincessCinderella<3,
THAT'S AWFUL! You cannot say that girls can do anything better, because it's not true and you know it. Some girls are better at boys at some things like sewing maybe, but there are things that boys are better at, too, like hunting or playing football.
-Smiles:)

Anonymous said...

i think that belle is right lol and princess belle is not so much. like i see where princess belle is coming from but girls are not weak and espeically all that scared. like i know im kinda contradicting myself a little when i said that we wouldnt survive for as long and stuff but it really just depends on the girls and girls can do everything boys can which means they can be barberic and forget the littleuns
~Lil' Dork

Anonymous said...

girls would have proboly odne jut fine yet there would not be as much violence